Four quadrants in our Head, Gut and Heart – Q&A

Hardly a metaphor here, my most left-brain science-like article on this to date

Four quadrants in our Head, Four quadrants in our Gut, Four quadrants in our Heart – Q&A

whole-brain-model-herrmann-2016Last week I was asked by a wonderful psychologist to explain what I do. The title above popped out. I explore our Four Quadrants for purposes of healing and wholeness. Perhaps this raises more questions in your mind…

Q: Are all three sets of quadrants the same?

A: No. Each resides in a specific location in our body image. The locations are stable universally.

Q: Where are they on the Freud-Jung-Steiner scale of Conscious, Sub-conscious, Unconscious?

A: All quadrant activity is unconscious. No wonder it took so long to come to the attention of Westerners doing basic research in human psychology.

A: Are all sets of quadrants the same frequency?

Q: No. Each functions within a distinct range of frequency. These do not overlap much–unless and until–you wish to become more integrated and whole-brained.

Q: In one quadrant system, is the content of each quadrant the same or different?

A: All different, but the same four archetypes appear in each quadrant system (Bertrand’s uncovery of the Inner Family).

Q: Are the Inner Family arranged in the same pattern in all three quadrant systems?

A: No. Quadrants in the lower two systems, heart and gut, have the same arrangement and presentation. The Inner Family in our head quadrants are arranged in a separate, stable presentaton, universally present.

Q: Are all three quadrant systems the same for men and women; or, do they vary between male and female like the chakras might?

A: All three sets of quadrants the same for men and women universally on Earth.

Q: Are they the same for children and adults?

A: No. The principal and primary pattern of human development birth up to puberty is as described in all Waldorf whole-child development texts.

Q: What happens to the quadrants from before puberty to after puberty?

A: The stable pattern of quadrants can only be cognized after puberty. In Three Selves terms, the Basic Self is the locus of control in children in utero up to puberty. Prior to puberty, the four quadrants in our gut predominate and are the locus of control. Their task is to build self-esteem as recorded and measured in the Conception Vessel in front.

After puberty the locus of control switches to Conscious Self. From then on our Head Quadrants and Governing Vessel (self-concept) in back store for playback the majority of our Habits as adults.

As children before puberty, we are primarily conscious and awake to the activity of our gut quadrants as this is where our habits of reacting to self, others, world, God are stored.

After puberty Conscious Self becomes the stand-in for our immortal-eternal soul. Its task is to make healthy choices and decisions. That’s The Plan anyway.

Want to give God a chance? If it’s good–do it. If it’s not good–don’t do it ~ John Morton

Q: Do animals-mammals have these same quadrants?

A: No evidence of this to date. The speculation is no evidence is likely to come forward. Human beings are not the same as even the higher apes, as materialistic science wishes to equate us.

Q: Why is four quadrants such a common, durable pattern?

A: It is not a theory, not an abstraction, not “quantum.” Four Quadrants can be perceived-verified-validated by two approaches. The presence of, and contents of, quadrant systems can be perceived thru direct clairvoyant observation, for those who can see and wish to look.

The second method is muscle testing and self-testing. Basic researchers in psychology no longer have to be highly clairvoyant to perceive the pattern of the quadrants. You can perceive them thru self-testing and muscle checking experiments.

Q: Is a Four Quadrants approach the same as “humoral medicine”?

A: No. It’s a mistake to think “history” as intellectual or religious tradition plays much of a role here. True, considerable history of Four Elements exists, in Western thought, since ancient Greek times as “humoral medicine.” The Four Humors was the major, accepted pattern in human psyches used by healers and doctors, until the 1850s, when the germ theory took over. Greek origins are at the base of humoral medicine. Not so for the Four Quadrants and Inner Family. Four Quadrants is also NOT the same as Rudolf Steiner’s Four Temperaments.

Q: Why is this ancient pattern coming back since 2000?

A: Two reasons. One is while few people are sufficiently clairvoyant to perceive-verify-validate natural phenomena in the Four Quadrants, since the mid-1960s hundreds and then thousands of people became active muscle testers and self-testers. A significant fraction of these work on clients in clinical settings, affording them opportunity to conduct large numbers of basic research experiments.

For those curious, the reality of differing, stable character of four quadrants in each of three areas is cheap and easy to perceive-verify-validate.

The second reason the Four Quadrants is coming back is the effectiveness of understanding and working with Unconscious Patterns. In the 1850s when the germ theory took over from Humoral Medicine, the germ theory in the West wiped out any, all and every competing insight into human health and disease; for example, homeopathy and chiropractic. 50 years now into holistic health and healing, it may be difficult to imagine the utter stranglehold and corrupt anti-competition practices used to promote-establish germ theory as the sole, undisputed model of human health and disease. It was at the time a big positive breakthru. At the same time, the baby was thrown out with the bathwater. Superstition and humoral medicine were thrown on the trash heap of Western history, along with any interest in Unconscious Patterns.

This skewed medical and psychology basic research towards only pathology, drugs and surgery. Authentic basic research into human psyches was put on hold.

Interest in Unconscious Patterns only re-awakened in original Psychosomatic Medicine, 1955-1965. In the mid-1870s the topic re-emerged in the wider context of the whole person. Psychosomatic symptoms were immediately recognized as a useful paradigm in holistic healing methods of all kinds. The lack of a comprehensive holistic theory and general holistic experimental method prevented stronger forward movement. Courtesy of Goethe, these were uncovered in 2014.

Due to the wide availability and low cost of muscle testing; and, the tremendous therapeutic power of Unconscious Patterns, the Four Quadrants are coming back into use slowly. We should see significant mainstream interest in about 100 years.

Q: Is the Four Quadrants the same as our etheric body?

A: No. The Four Quadrants is only one of an unknown number of etheric forms, features and capacities.

The Four Quadrants arise from the four-fold character of etheric formative forces. Let’s remember etheric forces are mystery itself. The “Great Mystery” points 100% to etheric forces, which can be defined many ways; including, as the Divine Feminine.

Q: What is the state of etheric forces literature?

A: There is hardly any significant literature. The book Etheric Formative Forces, by Rudolf Steiner’s secretary, Geunther Wachsmuth, free online, if you can find it, has proven over time to be more a defense of Steiner’s ideas than a modern introduction.

The better starting place on a literature of etheric forces is one single book, Man or Matter, 3rd ed. (1985) by Ernst Lehrs. Nick Thomas (Editor), Peter Bortoft (Editor) The preferred third edition is HERE.  It’s about $30 delivered. The first edition is free online but is a famously difficult read. I’ve read both. Start with the third ed. By the way, the original title was Man and Matter, which makes more sense. I recommend the first 12 chapters of third ed; the rest is esoteric even beyond Energy Medicine.

Theosophical-Rosicrucian literature on etheric forces exists but has not proven popular nor useful. Why? Because it attempts a mental understanding of etheric forces. Not until Lehrs, in the 1950s, who was a Waldorf high school science teacher, was anyone able to write in such a way to point to the etheric without equating ether and mind. Paradoxically what we call “thinking” is another manifestation of etheric phenomena, at its higher frequency end.

Lehrs antidotes most every flaw and confused idea of the Quantum Discussion. Man or Matter is one of very few books in any field speaking directly to a future Goethean Holistic Science compatible with and supportive of truly human values.

The second piece of etheric forces literature which can stand with Lehrs, known to me, is chapters 19-24 of Balance on All Levels PACME+Soul; Finally, a general holistic experimental method; The Three Sciences we use everyday; Holistic Psychology 2.0

Chapter 19: Goethean Holistic Science

Chapter 20: Three Sciences

Chapter 23-24

Comments welcome. Conversation invited.

Christmas 2016

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For those interested, a more modern; hopefully, more coherent, clear version of the spine-flower analogy, human as upside-down plant.

By Bruce Dickson,

Rudolf Steiner started many of us thinking on how plants and the human being are similar. RS called the human being an inverted plant. Consider, the flower on an annual plant are the sex organs of the plant. In a flower they point up. In human beings, our sex organs point down.

In a plant, its roots are in the relatively stable, unmoving soil. In the human being, our roots are invisible, in higher worlds, in mental-emotional realms; more precisely in our beliefs, self-concept and our unique algnmment with truly human values. The higher realms are relatively stable and unmoving–compared to Earthly conditions, which change constantly. This paraphrases Steiner.
What if the human being is an upside-down plant in more than one way?

Goethe contributed to our understanding of the human spine. Goethe drew attention to how the adult spine is similar to the yearly process annual flowers go thru towards producing a flower.

Our hips and sacrum are a stable base, a foundation. Our spine vertebrae are analogous to the leaf-leaf-leaf repetition-rhythm on the stem of a flower stalk. Our sphenoid bone and our human face, are analogous to the lovely face of a flower.

I also like the idea of a flower on top of the spine, inside the skull, top of the skull, both, perhaps. Advanced clairvoyants see a lotus flower geometry in and/or at the top of the head. This is wondrous to me. This paraphrases Goethe.

Fetus uncurling from the head

Now let’s consider DOWNWARD sequences. In the womb, in human embryology, the human head forms first, not last. Our lower body uncurls from the head the way in kindergarten, a lima bean plant uncurls from a dry lima bean moistened and put between two wet paper towels, in the dark. We can imagine our vertebrae ‘going DOWN the spine’ as analogous to what the lima bean does uncurling from the seed.

In downward imagery, the beauty of the human face is analogous to a flower; then, our Axis-Atlas and/or sphenoid bone have to be analogous to the calyx (bud).

In downwards imagery of human development, the flower comes first, our beautiful face, us as we are, before birth, in the higher realms. This comes first, before the fetus, who builds our body. The human being is first connected with Spirit, starts from a higher form, grows DOWN towards a physical embodiment. At the start, human embryology unfurls from the head.

The human being is an upside down plant in two more ways, if we imagine a progression of color and frequency.

In adults after puberty, our etheric body has four (or more) frequency regions. In adults, as our gaze moves from skull towards feet, we are moving lower and lower in frequency, in vibration. This is a key to perceiving our etheric body.

What are we progressing to? The red of our first etheric center, a focus of our physical form. At least four octaves. These four octaves are celebrated in Laughter Yoga. From top-highest to lowest: Hee-hee!, Ha-ha! heh-heh, and Ho-ho!

The lowering of frequency is perhaps easier to imagine as changes in color. As the fetus uncurls, it devolves from ultraviolet frequencies, down thru purples, thru blue, down all the way to base red frequencies of the root center connected with the coccyx. In terms of color-frequency, hips, legs and feet are close to red.

The above suggests an update of Goethe-Steiner ideas of the human being as upside-down plant:

– While the plant grows primarily UP from its roots, the human being, in utero and in the first five years, grows primarily DOWN from its flower, down from its beautiful face (down from the as-yet uncorrupted etheric body).

– A plant first establishes its roots in the soil and grows UP towards a flower, raising and expanding its frequency to express its highest possible frequency in a flower and possibly scent. Soul outside the human experience begins established in Spirit; then, grows DOWN into a fetus and towards capacity for the human journey. Soul grows DOWN into legs, feet; ultimately, into under-standing the human experience.

Perhaps we can say, humans and plants grow analogously–but in opposite directions. Perhaps the human being is an upside-down plant in more than one way.

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Abstract-summary of the Three Sciences we use everyday

Abstract of Three Sciences chapters 19-20 of Balance on All Levels PACME+Soul ~

“Hard scientists,” especially those skeptical of holistic ideas and subjective phenomena, forget we use two other kinds of science every day.

three-sciences-triptych-hi-resThe average adult—especially women–use Three Orders of Science each day.

Second Order Science: Physical survival intelligence ~

Each day we make many survival choices, safe, rational evaluations about how to cross a busy street, drive a car, handle power tools, problem solving; in fact, navigating any new situation unfamiliar to us.

Activity and choices around survival are “real,” are one kind of rational thinking; and, this is one category of “science” we use daily.

First Order Science: Immune System Self intelligence ~

Each day we make choices about what benefits me and only me. Do I like this dress better or that dress? Do I want fish or turkey for lunch today? Is it more beneficial for me to go to bed at 10pm or 1 am? Do I prefer this or that color, style, music, or turn of phrase in my speech?

Down below our neck, in our Small Intestine, our Cell Level Intelligence is “asking” and “testing,” “Is this nutrient floating by safe and beneficial for me to take into my bloodstream now?” Either this nutrient is safe and beneficial now or it is not safe and/or beneficial now.

Even tho they concern me and me alone, these activities and choices are also “real” and rational.

The two above add up to TWO kinds of rational thinking; now two categories of “science” we use everyday.

Let’s pause here to not “selfishness” occurs when the above two sciences get fused, cross-wired. Then “all about me” becomes the criteria for every moment of waking life. In extreme cases, my needs become more significant than yours or anyone else’s. A certain Republican candidate for President in 2016 demonstrated the error of this mis-use of thinking magnificently. We can all learn what not to do from his example.

Third Order Science: Intelligence of the greatest good for the greatest number ~

If you are a mother or a father, you make daily choices and decisions assessing the amount of food, clothing, shelter and resources we have in hand against the needs of everyone involved. In this “science” we think rationally about how easy it is to get more of each resource; and, how each need will expand or shrink in the next time period to come.

In this third category of rational choosing-deciding, I alone am no longer the sole stakeholder. I choose to consider the needs of my children, retired grandparents; and often, extended family members. Even tho thinking here concerns me as perhaps one small part of a greater whole, choices made in this area are also real and rational. Ask any parent.

By my count, this makes three categories of rational choosing, rational decision making, rational evaluations, we make every day, Three Sciences.

Q: What practical application does this have?

A: The Three Sciences may have have the most immediate and timely relevance to methods of holistic healing and Energy Medicine, all of them.

This is because Second Order (ego-survival, “hard” science) has been at war with holism and holistic thought since the 1970s [including everything in Waldorf].

The Three Sciences make the conflict unnecessary. ONE science alone cannot span the range of rational thinking we use every day; on one end, what is beneficial at the cellular level; and, what is beneficial for highest good of everyone and all critters on Planet Earth.

We can, we do, and we must use different Orders of thinking to address issues, depending which scale of concern is before us presently.

First Order Science is the naturally supportive science for holistic studies
How our cells and immune system “think” is 100% First Order Science. Not Second, not Third. First Order Science is the Science of the subjective; where, we honor and uncover more of both its intelligence; and, its limitations.

First Order Science is the key to forward progress in health and healing because ‘each person heals uniquely’ (Rudolf Steiner paraphrase). What is workable to heal me is highly individualized. It may or may not be workable for you. What works is often subjective. Outside of accidents and physical injury, the vast majority of healing for humans must be calibrated to the single individual. Humans are the least herd-like of creatures.

What thinking, which Science, characterizes hospital-drug-surgery-medicine? Can you guess?

Conventional 20th century medicine is 100% Second Order Science, the science of physical-material survival and male-ego-survival.

This is why it was pointless for John Thie, DC of Touch for Health and his practitioner colleagues to struggle for 25 years to get T4H services accepted by established medical authorities, why insurance companies never paid for Touch for Health by anyone except MDs. Holistic healing is literally outside what they call and consider “science,” beyond what they consider “real.”

With Three Sciences, we can say, just because holistic idea X is not Second Order Science does NOT mean no science, no rational, no critical thinking is occurring. Critical thinking occurs at three or more levels of intelligence inside us each and every day.

Q: Where does the science of Galileo-Descartes-Newton-Hawking fall?

A: Second Order. The middle Science was the first to evolve. First Order did not get going outwardly until the 1970s. Third Order began with Lincoln, Ghandi and ML King.

First Order Science healthcare has no conflict with Second Order medical healthcare. Why should they? they are separate Sciences. We want Second Order Science healthcare for accidents, injuries, and needed surgeries. We want First Order Science healthcare for most other wellness, health and prevention needs. A future, more Goethean Psychology will address concerns in all Three Sciences.